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Which Engine builder to use???

Postby greenar » Tue 24th Apr 2012, 11:25am

Hello everyone, I have decided to throw some cash at my old Clubman Estate and have done some research into engine builders. On ebay you can buy a 1380 engine with gearbox from Brigham engines (who I've never heard of) for a little over £1800 and just over £2000 the same size can be bought from Jonspeed.

MED Engineering and Bill Richards racing have both been recommended but MED supply for £3750 and B.R starts off at £3500 but that's for something basic. If I go to Bill Richards it sounds like I wont have much change from £5k once it's fitted and tuned etc but, having talked to him, it sounds like I'll get an excellent job done. Does anyone have any experience with the cheaper end of the market? Am I likely to get a load of problems and an inferior product if I go to Jonspeed or similar? If anyone has used any of these builders or knows of any others I should be trying please let me know.

Also, Jonspeed can build a supercharged 1293 for around £3k - has anyone driven one of these? Sounds like fun but don't want to compromise reliability.

Thanks in advance...
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby royallingham » Tue 24th Apr 2012, 02:57pm

A high power 1380 is never going to be very 'reliable' - it's going to be a high maintenance engine. Why don't you do it yourself - it's not rocket science, and you can easily put together an excellent engine for ~£1000 and then add a cylinder head of your choice..... And I would keep to 1293/1310 territory. The difference in power is miniscule.
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby Brumski » Tue 24th Apr 2012, 08:54pm

ML Motorsport...

The only place I'd get an performance A series built as AC Dodd does the work... :wink:
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby greenar » Tue 24th Apr 2012, 11:16pm

Thanks for the advice gents
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby pth323 » Wed 25th Apr 2012, 12:03am

I will second that Brumski. ML are well known for well built, and properly done engines. They are building a 1293 fast road for me at the moment. Not the cheapest end of the market but not as much as some of the others you mentioned either. It obviously depends on the spec you want but at the end of the day you get what you pay for. The parts and machining work alone as Roy said will cost £1000 plus if its going to be done properly and that doesn't factor in a donor engine. So when you look at the cheaper alternatives you have to question how they are going to make a profit without scrimping somewhere. Where are you based greenar?
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby Zippyrude » Wed 25th Apr 2012, 06:30am

Perhaps another obvious recommendation but AC / ML For me
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby RikWalsh » Wed 25th Apr 2012, 10:30am

You need to be very carefull with the cheaper end of the market - Its cheaper for a reason.. Horror stories come up all the time along the lines of this..




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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby greenar » Wed 25th Apr 2012, 12:27pm

I'm in Tunbridge Wells, Kent so South East would be ideal but I don't mind travelling to get a good job done and not have my trousers pulled down.
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby 998cctom » Wed 25th Apr 2012, 01:08pm

Don't have experience with engine builds but have to recommend ML as well. They did work on my car and were very knowledgeable :)
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby Zippyrude » Wed 25th Apr 2012, 03:41pm

greenar wrote:I'm in Tunbridge Wells, Kent so South East would be ideal but I don't mind travelling to get a good job done and not have my trousers pulled down.


So localish to you
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby Croker » Wed 25th Apr 2012, 05:18pm

Just to show that we here at minifinity aren't bias, thought I'd give you the details of another decent south east engine builder other than ML.





Unfortunatly no one else compares!

ML all the way buddy! :wink:
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby 998cctom » Wed 25th Apr 2012, 05:45pm

Croker wrote:Just to show that we here at minifinity aren't bias, thought I'd give you the details of another decent south east engine builder other than ML.





Unfortunatly no one else compares!

ML all the way buddy! :wink:


I like that! Haha :mrgreen:
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby brighamengines2012 » Mon 11th Jun 2012, 10:22pm

Hi guys, just thought id say hi. I am half of Brigham Engines, run by myself and business partner. Just thought Id let you know that we are reputable engine builers and don't 'scrimp' on our engine builds. We are a very small company and take extreme pride, care and attention in all our engines we build. We can understand your sceptisism on pricing. Personally don't believe in things being cheaper for a reason. As I'v said above there is just the 2 of us in the company with hardly any overheads compared to the 'bigger' companies, we are therfore able to pass this saving on to our customers. By no means to de scrimp or cut corners when building our engines.
All the best,

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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby Zippyrude » Mon 11th Jun 2012, 10:27pm

brighamengines2012 wrote:Hi guys, just thought id say hi.


ive sent you a pm ;)
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Re: Which Engine builder to use???

Postby Nozzle » Mon 11th Jun 2012, 10:32pm

Ah, Stowmarket in Suffolk??? This neck of the woods (Suffolk) seems fairly lacking in good Mini places (they do exist though!!), it's just that all the good stuff seems to be in the Midlands/Up north - I'll be doing a little research as I'd like to find out more about your work. (This is not to negate all of the excellent comments about ML, mind you!)

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